The two sightings that I saw are not man made Iam a aircraft nut and know my aircraft these sighting are not.The first sighting was in Dec of 62 I was one my way to school and waiting for a buddy out in front of his house it was clear and cold.I just happened to look stait up and saw a group of dots about 1/16 of an inch in dia. at arms length 12 in tolal.They stayed in a none moving group for about 10 or so min. and in a split second all shot off in different dirctions of the compass.The altiude was so high that all I could was dots.The second sighting was in the spring of 2013 I was sitting on my front porch the sky was clear and I saw the object heading north from the south at a very high rate of speed cigar shaped and the exhaust was coming from the front of the craft and curling around and then trailing.I live on a aircraft flight path and see all kinds of planes all day this was huge flying 3 to 4 times faster than a comercial jet and guessing the attiltude was 50000 plus feet.If you like I would talk to you about my sightings. Pat McGrath 604 4650879 Ps Iam also a backyard astronomer
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